SOCREF-L Archives – May 2003, week 3

1. "I GOT GAME(s)" (Long!)
   • "I GOT GAME(s)" (Long!) (61 lines)
     From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:33:01 -0400
   • Re: "I GOT GAME(s)" (Long!) (208 lines)
     From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:47:36 -0400

2. (keeper change) The Joy of U12G (in NJ). Still smiling ...
   • Re: (keeper change) The Joy of U12G (in NJ). Still smiling ... (31 lines)
     From: Reza Pazirandeh <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 20:59:11 -0700

3. Another tough sell
   • Another tough sell (33 lines)
     From: Lin Lipinski <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 18:44:56 EDT
   • Re: Another tough sell (23 lines)
     From: Lin Lipinski <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 20:34:59 EDT
   • Re: Another tough sell (41 lines)
     From: Jim Gordon <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 08:35:00 -0400

4. AR's tough call and my tough sell
   • AR's tough call and my tough sell (96 lines)
     From: Matt LaFontaine <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 11:53:04 -0500
   • AR's tough call and my tough sell (88 lines)
     From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:56:27 -0400
   • Re: AR's tough call and my tough sell (141 lines)
     From: Matt LaFontaine <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:07:00 -0500
   • AR's tough call and my tough sell (36 lines)
     From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:22:49 -0400
   • Re: AR's tough call and my tough sell (14 lines)
     From: Jim Geissman <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:11:25 -0400
   • Re: AR's tough call and my tough sell (33 lines)
     From: Mark A. Morin <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 13:16:00 -0700
   • Re: AR's tough call and my tough sell (104 lines)
     From: Ed Marco <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 17:17:23 -0400
   • Re: AR's tough call and my tough sell (37 lines)
     From: Chuck Mason <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 08:58:23 -0600
   • Re: AR's tough call and my tough sell (48 lines)
     From: stevem <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 14:18:50 -0400
   • Re: AR's tough call and my tough sell (95 lines)
     From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 19:19:36 -0400
   • Re: AR's tough call and my tough sell (21 lines)
     From: The Geissmans <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 18:04:26 -0700
   • Re: AR's tough call and my tough sell (112 lines)
     From: stevem <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 21:41:55 -0400
   • Re: AR's tough call and my tough sell (20 lines)
     From: Jonathan Gingerich <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 23:14:57 -0400
   • Re: AR's tough call and my tough sell (50 lines)
     From: doug smith <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 21:00:01 +0000

5. ARs are Wonderful !
   • Re: ARs are Wonderful ! (18 lines)
     From: Krall, Stephen E <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 08:51:27 -0400
   • Re: ARs are Wonderful ! (70 lines)
     From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 09:50:07 -0400

6. Best MLS Game of the Year: Quakes 4. Crew 3.....last night in SJ.
   • Re: Best MLS Game of the Year: Quakes 4. Crew 3.....last night in SJ. (66 lines)
     From: John Park <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 21:33:31 -0700
   • Re: Best MLS Game of the Year: Quakes 4. Crew 3.....last night in SJ. (149 lines)
     From: jack barry <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 00:33:12 -0700
   • Best MLS Game of the Year: Quakes 4. Crew 3.....last night in SJ. (103 lines)
     From: Van Emden Henson <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 00:52:05 -0700

7. Best MLS Game of the Year: Quakes 4. Crew 3.....last night inSJ.
   • Re: Best MLS Game of the Year: Quakes 4. Crew 3.....last night inSJ. (65 lines)
     From: Caroline Lambert <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 00:51:37 -0400
   • Re: Best MLS Game of the Year: Quakes 4. Crew 3.....last night inSJ. (165 lines)
     From: jack barry <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 09:29:04 -0700

8. Boing -- spring-loaded boots give footballers the edge
   • Boing -- spring-loaded boots give footballers the edge (66 lines)
     From: Andrew Castiglione <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 00:41:15 -0700

9. City may let referees eject unruly spectators
   • Re: City may let referees eject unruly spectators (21 lines)
     From: Jim Gordon <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 07:26:07 -0400

10. City may let referees eject unruly spectators... Sherwood, OR
    • Re: City may let referees eject unruly spectators... Sherwood, OR (35 lines)
      From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 07:20:09 -0400

11. City may let referees eject unruly spectators... Sherwood, Oregon
    • City may let referees eject unruly spectators... Sherwood, Oregon (106 lines)
      From: Andrew Castiglione <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 19:28:03 -0700
    • Re: City may let referees eject unruly spectators... Sherwood, Oregon (35 lines)
      From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 23:07:40 -0500

12. Conflict of Interest?
    • Conflict of Interest? (27 lines)
      From: Brian Fryd <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 08:59:52 EDT
    • Conflict of Interest? (46 lines)
      From: Ferenc & Sandy Korompai <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 08:38:57 -0500
    • Re: Conflict of Interest? (29 lines)
      From: Mike Young <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 10:41:26 -0400
    • Re: Conflict of Interest? (35 lines)
      From: Jim Gordon <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 22:07:27 -0400
    • Re: Conflict of Interest? (56 lines)
      From: Kevin Burke <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 21:10:40 -0500
    • Re: Conflict of Interest? (18 lines)
      From: The Geissmans <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:39:51 -0700
    • Re: Conflict of Interest? (47 lines)
      From: Brian Smith-White <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 08:50:48 -0400
    • Re: Conflict of Interest? (24 lines)
      From: Gary Voshol <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 21:04:22 -0400
    • Re: Conflict of Interest? (72 lines)
      From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 23:46:20 -0500

13. DOGSO Opinion
    • DOGSO Opinion (29 lines)
      From: stevem <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 09:34:28 -0400
    • Re: DOGSO Opinion (53 lines)
      From: Ed Marco <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 09:56:56 -0400
    • Re: DOGSO Opinion (15 lines)
      From: Mike Young <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:11:30 -0400
    • Re: DOGSO Opinion (34 lines)
      From: stevem <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:27:38 -0400
    • Re: DOGSO Opinion (24 lines)
      From: Mike Young <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:58:08 -0400

14. Don't Ya Just Love it....
    • Don't Ya Just Love it.... (31 lines)
      From: jack barry <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 23:55:15 -0700
    • Re: Don't Ya Just Love it.... (48 lines)
      From: Bill Faucett <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 11:21:31 -0400

15. Electronic submission of report form
    • Electronic submission of report form (19 lines)
      From: Ali Nicoll <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 16:17:02 +0100
    • Re: Electronic submission of report form (35 lines)
      From: William Noyes <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 09:11:27 -0700
    • Re: Electronic submission of report form (44 lines)
      From: Doug Gentry <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:52:40 -0700
    • Re: Electronic submission of report form (14 lines)
      From: Jay Harlow <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 11:42:00 -0700
    • Re: Electronic submission of report form (13 lines)
      From: Mike Young <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 18:57:01 -0400

16. Exception to the rule
    • Exception to the rule (33 lines)
      From: Mike Moore <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 14:54:55 -0400

17. Exception to the rule (Sheffield U v. Nottingham)
    • Exception to the rule (Sheffield U v. Nottingham) (74 lines)
      From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 19:17:56 -0400
    • Re: Exception to the rule (Sheffield U v. Nottingham) (57 lines)
      From: Byron Hetzler <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 18:37:23 -0600

18. eyeglasses for officials ...
    • Re: eyeglasses for officials ... (50 lines)
      From: H. Brent Howatt <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 09:38:03 -0700
    • Re: eyeglasses for officials ... (84 lines)
      From: Guy La Voie <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 11:26:38 -0600

19. FA CUP FINAL (No Results)
    • FA CUP FINAL (No Results) (35 lines)
      From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 12:15:59 -0400
    • Re: FA CUP FINAL (No Results) (13 lines)
      From: [log in to unmask]
      Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 13:26:31 -0400
    • Re: FA CUP FINAL (No Results) (24 lines)
      From: jeff forward <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 11:21:10 -0700

20. FW: AR's tough call and my tough sell
    • FW: AR's tough call and my tough sell (66 lines)
      From: Matt LaFontaine <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:18:45 -0500
    • Re: FW: AR's tough call and my tough sell (124 lines)
      From: Jeff Caminsky <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 11:15:50 -0400
    • Re: FW: AR's tough call and my tough sell (35 lines)
      From: Robert D. Canavan <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 12:52:08 -0500

21. FW: Best MLS Game of the Year: Quakes 4. Crew 3.....last night in SJ.
    • FW: Best MLS Game of the Year: Quakes 4. Crew 3.....last night in SJ. (35 lines)
      From: jack barry <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:35:13 -0700

22. FW: MLS Refereeing, and Critiques thereon
    • FW: MLS Refereeing, and Critiques thereon (199 lines)
      From: jack barry <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 13:59:53 -0700

23. Fwd: Another tough sell
    • Fwd: Another tough sell (53 lines)
      From: Ferenc & Sandy Korompai <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 18:30:50 -0500

24. Fwd: Re: ARs are Wonderful !
    • Fwd: Re: ARs are Wonderful ! (43 lines)
      From: Ferenc & Sandy Korompai <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 09:28:32 -0500

25. FWIW -- some Illinois ref stats
    • FWIW -- some Illinois ref stats (41 lines)
      From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 12:35:29 -0500
    • FWIW -- some Illinois ref stats (53 lines)
      From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 14:09:14 -0400

26. Game called on account of tornado
    • Game called on account of tornado (19 lines)
      From: Peter Angelo <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 23:02:21 -0400

27. Game called on account of tornado -- thunder/lightning here ...
    • Re: Game called on account of tornado -- thunder/lightning here ... (65 lines)
      From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 00:11:20 -0500
    • Re: Game called on account of tornado -- thunder/lightning here ... (133 lines)
      From: Tom Lamm <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 07:05:18 -0500

28. Laser eye surgery [Re: eyeglasses for officials]
    • Laser eye surgery [Re: eyeglasses for officials] (23 lines)
      From: Jay Harlow <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 10:35:18 -0700

29. MLS Last Weekend
    • MLS Last Weekend (20 lines)
      From: Bill Faucett <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 16:33:04 -0400
    • Re: MLS Last Weekend (20 lines)
      From: Lee Jordan <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 14:04:34 -0700
    • Re: MLS Last Weekend (39 lines)
      From: Bill Faucett <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 19:42:31 -0400
    • Re: MLS Last Weekend (22 lines)
      From: Lee Jordan <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 17:01:37 -0700

30. MLS Ref Clinic? (was Re: Best MLS Game of the Year)
    • MLS Ref Clinic? (was Re: Best MLS Game of the Year) (18 lines)
      From: W. Jarrett Campbell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 07:55:47 -0400
    • Re: MLS Ref Clinic? (was Re: Best MLS Game of the Year) (37 lines)
      From: Henrique Martins <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 05:51:17 -0700
    • Re: MLS Ref Clinic? (was Re: Best MLS Game of the Year) (49 lines)
      From: The Salganiks <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 09:11:59 -0400

31. MLS Refereeing, and Critiques thereon
    • MLS Refereeing, and Critiques thereon (46 lines)
      From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 15:36:09 -0400
    • Re: MLS Refereeing, and Critiques thereon (118 lines)
      From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 15:58:39 -0400
    • MLS Refereeing, and Critiques thereon (135 lines)
      From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 17:31:28 -0400

32. News Reports re Soccer
    • Re: News Reports re Soccer (54 lines)
      From: Neil Montgomery <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 11:56:57 -0400
    • Re: News Reports re Soccer (24 lines)
      From: The Geissmans <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:56:23 -0700
    • Re: News Reports re Soccer (19 lines)
      From: Justin M. Burns <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 23:43:10 -0400
    • Re: News Reports re Soccer (16 lines)
      From: Mike Young <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:20:10 -0400
    • Re: News Reports re Soccer (31 lines)
      From: W. Jarrett Campbell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 10:45:56 -0400
    • Re: News Reports re Soccer (24 lines)
      From: Fred Speirs <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 12:39:40 -0400

33. Player Reactions
    • Player Reactions (30 lines)
      From: Lawrence Savell <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 08:17:51 -0700

34. Recent Bad Feelings (Was Re: Conflict of Interest?)
    • Re: Recent Bad Feelings (Was Re: Conflict of Interest?) (58 lines)
      From: Brian Fryd <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 22:18:58 EDT

35. Sol Campbell's Red Card, and possible change to the "Effect of a Send Off"????? (assuming TLOTG didnot come down on two tablets, from a mountain.)
    • Sol Campbell's Red Card, and possible change to the "Effect of a Send Off"????? (assuming TLOTG didnot come down on two tablets, from a mountain.) (60 lines)
      From: jack barry <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:39:18 -0700

36. The Joy of U12G (in NJ). Still smiling ...
    • Re: The Joy of U12G (in NJ). Still smiling ... (104 lines)
      From: AMPM <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 09:17:52 -0500

37. The Real UEFA Cup Final post
    • The Real UEFA Cup Final post (44 lines)
      From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 23:02:08 -0400

38. uefa cup
    • uefa cup (19 lines)
      From: Lee Jordan <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 12:54:37 -0700
    • Re: uefa cup (19 lines)
      From: Jonny (AYSO, Los Angeles, CA) <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 15:59:46 EDT
    • Re: uefa cup (27 lines)
      From: Fred Speirs <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 16:35:28 -0400
    • Re: uefa cup (29 lines)
      From: Ed Marco <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 17:45:10 -0400
    • Re: uefa cup (29 lines)
      From: Byron Hetzler <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 16:00:42 -0600

39. UEFA Cup Final
    • UEFA Cup Final (14 lines)
      From: Fred Speirs <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 14:38:11 -0400
    • Re: UEFA Cup Final (30 lines)
      From: Caroline Lambert <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 15:11:18 -0400
    • Re: UEFA Cup Final (65 lines)
      From: Jim Mantle <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 15:32:21 -0400
    • Re: UEFA Cup Final (37 lines)
      From: Fred Speirs <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 16:41:42 -0400
    • Re: UEFA Cup Final (22 lines)
      From: Bob Henderson <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 14:32:24 -0700
    • Re: UEFA Cup Final (22 lines)
      From: Mike Young <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 19:09:32 -0400
    • Re: UEFA Cup Final (29 lines)
      From: Gary Voshol <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 20:18:15 -0400
    • Re: UEFA Cup Final (20 lines)
      From: The Geissmans <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 19:07:39 -0700

40. Universal Pregame
    • Re: Universal Pregame (42 lines)
      From: H. Brent Howatt <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 15:59:00 -0700
    • Re: Universal Pregame (21 lines)
      From: The Geissmans <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:38:55 -0700
    • Re: Universal Pregame (46 lines)
      From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 23:56:06 -0500
    • Re: Universal Pregame (24 lines)
      From: Gary Voshol <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 07:08:04 -0400
    • Re: Universal Pregame (38 lines)
      From: Peter T Murphy <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 11:29:47 -0400

41. USM U23 NT Beat Mexico 3-1
    • USM U23 NT Beat Mexico 3-1 (21 lines)
      From: Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 07:48:13 -0400

42. USSF logo socks
    • Re: USSF logo socks (38 lines)
      From: Mark Mittelstadt <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:45:12 EDT

43. Vizari boots
    • Vizari boots (13 lines)
      From: Robert Canavan <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 06:37:50 -0500
    • Re: Vizari boots (37 lines)
      From: Hugh Griffis <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 09:23:47 -0500
    • Re: Vizari boots (55 lines)
      From: Scott Franklin <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 11:07:33 -0400
    • Re: Vizari boots (39 lines)
      From: David Bassett <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 08:31:17 -0700
    • Re: Vizari boots (216 lines)
      From: Gwen Keck <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 08:40:12 -0700

44. was: Re: News Reports re Soccer -- web addr for Sportvision
    • was: Re: News Reports re Soccer -- web addr for Sportvision (43 lines)
      From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 10:15:33 -0500