SOCREF-L Archives – September 2003, week 5

1. age appropriateness (was: Certifying new referees)
   • age appropriateness (was: Certifying new referees) (61 lines)
     From: The Salganiks <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:25:54 -0400

2. ARs and walls
   • ARs and walls (12 lines)
     From: Jay Harlow <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:52:05 -0700
   • Re: ARs and walls (20 lines)
     From: Ed Marco <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:14:35 -0400

3. Backpass question
   • Re: Backpass question (57 lines)
     From: tj marlin <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:13:24 -0700
   • Re: Backpass question (28 lines)
     From: Jonathan Gingerich <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 02:14:34 -0400
   • Re: Backpass question (49 lines)
     From: AMPM <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:53:19 -0500
   • Re: Backpass question (21 lines)
     From: Carlos Suarez <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:14:27 -0400

4. Best Q Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands
   • Best Q Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (16 lines)
     From: D A <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:20:13 -0500

5. Certifyin new referees
   • Re: Certifyin new referees (27 lines)
     From: [log in to unmask]
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:03:07 EDT
   • Re: Certifyin new referees (67 lines)
     From: Peter Angelo <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:40:29 -0400
   • Re: Certifyin new referees (37 lines)
     From: Lin Lipinski <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:56:17 EDT

6. Certifying new referees
   • Certifying new referees (46 lines)
     From: Tom Stagliano <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 07:55:53 -0400
   • Re: Certifying new referees (92 lines)
     From: Michael D. Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 05:12:09 -0700
   • Re: Certifying new referees (88 lines)
     From: Gary Walker <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:47:13 -0400
   • Re: Certifying new referees (117 lines)
     From: Jeff Caminsky <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:34:08 -0400
   • Re: Certifying new referees (59 lines)
     From: stevem <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:50:54 -0400
   • Re: Certifying new referees (173 lines)
     From: Peter Angelo <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:03:00 -0400
   • Re: Certifying new referees (25 lines)
     From: Lin Lipinski <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:31:51 EDT
   • Re: Certifying new referees (55 lines)
     From: SATX Soccer Ref <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:35:44 -0500
   • Re: Certifying new referees (140 lines)
     From: Tom Stagliano <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:52:18 -0400
   • Re: Certifying new referees (183 lines)
     From: jeff forward <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:45:10 -0700
   • Re: Certifying new referees (201 lines)
     From: Peter Angelo <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:20:39 -0400
   • Re: Certifying new referees (69 lines)
     From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:13:44 -0500
   • Re: Certifying new referees (27 lines)
     From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:44:40 -0500
   • Re: Certifying new referees (224 lines)
     From: Peter Angelo <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:35:24 -0400
   • Re: Certifying new referees (30 lines)
     From: Ed Marco <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:36:05 -0400
   • Re: Certifying new referees (44 lines)
     From: Gary Voshol <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:14:13 -0400
   • Re: Certifying new referees (22 lines)
     From: The Geissmans <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:50:27 -0700
   • Re: Certifying new referees (44 lines)
     From: Tom Stagliano <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:54:27 -0400
   • Re: Certifying new referees (50 lines)
     From: Mark Wroth <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:53:24 -0700
   • Re: Certifying new referees (22 lines)
     From: Larry Huey <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:33:10 -0400

7. Certifying new referees - USSF Survival?!
   • Re: Certifying new referees - USSF Survival?! (54 lines)
     From: Michael D. Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:37:55 -0700
   • Re: Certifying new referees - USSF Survival?! (71 lines)
     From: Ed Marco <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:29:00 -0500
   • Re: Certifying new referees - USSF Survival?! (51 lines)
     From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:44:09 -0500
   • Re: Certifying new referees - USSF Survival?! (23 lines)
     From: [log in to unmask]
     Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:23:16 EDT

8. Champions League game on ESPN2
   • Champions League game on ESPN2 (16 lines)
     From: Theodore G. DeWys <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:17:44 -0400

9. CLUELESS IN BAHSTON (WAS Certifying new referees
   • Re: CLUELESS IN BAHSTON (WAS Certifying new referees (49 lines)
     From: Michael D. Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
     Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:32:54 -0700

10. Did you see what I saw? USA vs N. Korea, score revealed
    • Did you see what I saw? USA vs N. Korea, score revealed (73 lines)
      From: Tom Stagliano <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:16:05 -0400
    • Re: Did you see what I saw? USA vs N. Korea, score revealed (41 lines)
      From: Gil Weber <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:00:19 -0400
    • Re: Did you see what I saw? USA vs N. Korea, score revealed (35 lines)
      From: SATX Soccer Ref <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:08:41 -0500
    • Re: Did you see what I saw? USA vs N. Korea, score revealed (31 lines)
      From: [log in to unmask]
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:50:08 EDT

11. Fw: Fwd: Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands
    • Fw: Fwd: Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (67 lines)
      From: Ferenc & Sandy Korompai <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:57:55 -0500
    • Re: Fw: Fwd: Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (80 lines)
      From: Jarrod Henry <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:20:08 -0000

12. Fwd: Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands
    • Fwd: Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (36 lines)
      From: Ferenc & Sandy Korompai <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:46:52 -0500
    • Re: Fwd: Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (52 lines)
      From: Jarrod Henry <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:19:38 -0000

13. Getting your money's worth
    • Getting your money's worth (67 lines)
      From: Even, Bill <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:16:59 -0600

14. HELP with Offside
    • HELP with Offside (17 lines)
      From: Margaret's soccer world <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:25:45 -0500
    • Re: HELP with Offside (45 lines)
      From: Mark A. Morin <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:39:18 -0700
    • Re: HELP with Offside (8 lines)
      From: Jonathan Gingerich <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:12:50 -0400
    • Re: HELP with Offside (52 lines)
      From: Warren Rust <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:14:45 +0000
    • Re: HELP with Offside (66 lines)
      From: Michael D. Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:56:15 -0700

15. HS restart question
    • HS restart question (34 lines)
      From: jonathan wills <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:35:57 -0700
    • Re: HS restart question (67 lines)
      From: Dennis Shimer <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:00:12 -0400
    • Re: HS restart question (63 lines)
      From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:04:11 -0500
    • Re: HS restart question (52 lines)
      From: Matt Slovacek <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:11:01 EDT
    • Re: HS restart question (50 lines)
      From: Michael D. Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:49:21 -0700

16. HS restart questions
    • Re: HS restart questions (30 lines)
      From: [log in to unmask]
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:58:16 EDT
    • Re: HS restart questions (43 lines)
      From: Matt Slovacek <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:17:33 EDT

17. IFK for "goalkeeper handling after trickery"
    • IFK for "goalkeeper handling after trickery" (53 lines)
      From: John Crown <[log in to unmask]> <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 15:30:50 -0700
    • Re: IFK for "goalkeeper handling after trickery" (65 lines)
      From: The Geissmans <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:06:06 -0700

18. Jewelry
    • Re: Jewelry (38 lines)
      From: Gil Weber <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:00:46 -0400

19. jewelry
    • jewelry (47 lines)
      From: Jim Gordon <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 02:56:20 -0400
    • Re: jewelry (25 lines)
      From: Ed Marco <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:24:05 -0400
    • Re: jewelry (13 lines)
      From: Jonathan Gingerich <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 09:50:11 -0400

20. Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (57 lines)
      From: tj marlin <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 21:20:12 -0700
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (13 lines)
      From: Jonathan Gingerich <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 02:05:07 -0400
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (24 lines)
      From: jeff forward <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:30:06 -0700
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (69 lines)
      From: Michael D. Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 04:50:29 -0700
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (49 lines)
      From: stevem <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:39:10 -0400
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (41 lines)
      From: SATX Soccer Ref <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:37:54 -0500
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (31 lines)
      From: stevem <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:46:04 -0400
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (10 lines)
      From: Jonathan Gingerich <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:36:56 -0400
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (21 lines)
      From: stevem <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:00:43 -0400
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (28 lines)
      From: Wickham, Dennis <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:23:39 -0700
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (22 lines)
      From: stevem <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:33:15 -0400
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (45 lines)
      From: Ed Marco <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:30:43 -0400
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (56 lines)
      From: Ned S. Levi <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:50:34 -0400
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (39 lines)
      From: Donohoe, Patrick <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:32:53 -0400
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (48 lines)
      From: Brian Smith-White <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:06:03 -0400
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (41 lines)
      From: Tom Lamm <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:12:13 -0500
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (82 lines)
      From: Guy La Voie <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:42:32 -0600
    • Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (94 lines)
      From: Warren Rust <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:22:07 +0000

21. legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrun
    • Re: legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrun (20 lines)
      From: D A <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:36:37 -0500

22. legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands
    • Re: legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (46 lines)
      From: Lin Lipinski <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:08:39 EDT
    • Re: legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (58 lines)
      From: Terry Thompson <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:39:54 -0400
    • Re: legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (53 lines)
      From: jeff forward <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:35:03 -0700
    • legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (55 lines)
      From: Van Emden Henson <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:10:50 -0700
    • Re: legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands (20 lines)
      From: D A <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 19:15:33 -0500

23. More of Did you see what I saw?
    • More of Did you see what I saw? (102 lines)
      From: Tom Stagliano <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:18:28 -0400
    • Re: More of Did you see what I saw? (37 lines)
      From: Chris Mohr <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:04:26 -0400
    • Re: More of Did you see what I saw? (61 lines)
      From: Tom Stagliano <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:38:16 -0400

24. Navel piercing WWC
    • Re: Navel piercing WWC (67 lines)
      From: Michael D. Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 04:32:15 -0700
    • Re: Navel piercing WWC (25 lines)
      From: Lin Lipinski <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 11:16:05 EDT
    • Re: Navel piercing WWC (22 lines)
      From: Fred Speirs <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 13:15:39 -0400
    • Re: Navel piercing WWC (64 lines)
      From: Peter Angelo <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:11:23 -0400

25. Navel Ring (Was: legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands)
    • Navel Ring (Was: legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands) (19 lines)
      From: Jonny (AYSO, Los Angeles, CA) <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:22:27 EDT
    • Re: Navel Ring (Was: legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands) (33 lines)
      From: Greg L. Gaunt <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:00:55 -0600
    • Re: Navel Ring (Was: legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands) (30 lines)
      From: Keith Gendler <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:03:15 -0700

26. Navel Ring (Was: legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist...
    • Re: Navel Ring (Was: legality Re: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist... (27 lines)
      From: Jonny (AYSO, Los Angeles, CA) <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:10:53 EDT

27. Oct 1 WWC match times reversed
    • Oct 1 WWC match times reversed (33 lines)
      From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 14:05:21 -0500

28. oh yes I do Re: jewelry
    • oh yes I do Re: jewelry (24 lines)
      From: D A <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:42:24 -0500
    • Re: oh yes I do Re: jewelry (53 lines)
      From: Wickham, Dennis <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:45:46 -0700

29. Purpose of Wrist Bands
    • Re: Purpose of Wrist Bands (20 lines)
      From: jeff forward <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:17:35 -0700

30. Purpose of Wrist Bands (Was: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands)
    • Re: Purpose of Wrist Bands (Was: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands) (38 lines)
      From: SATX Soccer Ref <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:04:31 -0500
    • Re: Purpose of Wrist Bands (Was: Jewelry, hair scrungies, wrist bands) (57 lines)
      From: Bill Liedtke <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:06:32 -0500

31. Responding To Spectators
    • Re: Responding To Spectators (62 lines)
      From: Wickham, Dennis <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:18:19 -0700

32. Ritual Human Sacrifice (was Certifying new referees)
    • Ritual Human Sacrifice (was Certifying new referees) (110 lines)
      From: Jeff Caminsky <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 15:00:01 -0400

33. Size of pitch?
    • Size of pitch? (23 lines)
      From: Mike Moore <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 10:34:24 -0400

34. Teamwork
    • Re: Teamwork (18 lines)
      From: Wickham, Dennis <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 09:33:43 -0700
    • Re: Teamwork (20 lines)
      From: John Park <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:21:43 +0000

35. The Referee as Authority Figure (was Re: Certifying new referees)
    • The Referee as Authority Figure (was Re: Certifying new referees) (59 lines)
      From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:31:13 -0500
    • Re: The Referee as Authority Figure (was Re: Certifying new referees) (25 lines)
      From: [log in to unmask]
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 16:54:38 EDT
    • Re: The Referee as Authority Figure (was Re: Certifying new referees) (21 lines)
      From: Mark Wroth <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:35:50 -0700
    • Re: The Referee as Authority Figure (was Re: Certifying new referees) (53 lines)
      From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 09:18:22 -0500

36. The Road Paved with Good Intentions Re: Certifying new referees
    • The Road Paved with Good Intentions Re: Certifying new referees (88 lines)
      From: Peter Angelo <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:31:29 -0400

37. upcoming WWC assignments - fees?
    • Re: upcoming WWC assignments - fees? (18 lines)
      From: [log in to unmask]
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:49:14 EDT

38. upcoming WWC assignments starting to appear
    • upcoming WWC assignments starting to appear (24 lines)
      From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:25:00 -0500
    • Re: upcoming WWC assignments starting to appear (26 lines)
      From: Gil Weber <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 23:42:22 -0400
    • Re: upcoming WWC assignments starting to appear (25 lines)
      From: Jim Gordon <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 02:07:59 -0400
    • Re: upcoming WWC assignments starting to appear (36 lines)
      From: D A <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:31:22 -0500

39. upcoming WWC assignments starting to appear -- UPDATED
    • upcoming WWC assignments starting to appear -- UPDATED (31 lines)
      From: Glenn Sogge <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:30:39 -0500
    • Re: upcoming WWC assignments starting to appear -- UPDATED (19 lines)
      From: Gary Voshol <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:07:14 -0400
    • Re: upcoming WWC assignments starting to appear -- UPDATED (47 lines)
      From: Theodore G. DeWys <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:36:28 -0400

40. USSF Survival?!
    • Re: USSF Survival?! (168 lines)
      From: Michael D. Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 08:17:52 -0700
    • Re: USSF Survival?! (205 lines)
      From: Ed Marco <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:14:00 -0500
    • Re: USSF Survival?! (107 lines)
      From: Peter Angelo <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 13:47:59 -0400

41. Whose time is it anyway?
    • Re: Whose time is it anyway? (66 lines)
      From: Jeff Caminsky <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:13:57 -0400
    • Re: Whose time is it anyway? (78 lines)
      From: Carlos Suarez <[log in to unmask]>
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 01:06:36 -0400