Date:         Wed, 16 May 2001 09:56:50 -0700
Reply-To:     "Hajj Umar A. Hassan" <[log in to unmask]>
Sender:       Discussion of Topics for Soccer Referees <[log in to unmask]>
From:         "Hajj Umar A. Hassan" <[log in to unmask]>
Organization: Charles R. Drew University
Subject:      Re: Here is a proved idea Re: How do they learn???
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Imagine that the youth referee, regardless of tribe (Ute or Mascogo or
Apache), was considered by all who knew him/her to be a very poor player.
Would this help or hinder him/her from being a good referee?  Is it possible
that the players would respect him/her more or less than if they didn't know
him/her from the other settlers?

I remember how difficult it was for rookie policemen who had been on the
short end of bullying in the beighborhood when they returned to their
communities with badges and guns: they were generally perceived as official
bullies (and perhaps justifiably so) while those who had been regulars
didn't have that perception problem.


----- Original Message -----
From: "kevin lavelle" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: Here is a proved idea Re: How do they learn???


> Chad,
> I agree with your three requirements for young referees.
> I would like to add a fourth requirement.
>
> 4)Playing experience. I think that the only thing that got me through some
> games when I was a ute was that I had committed every foul in the book and
> thus knew all the little "tricks". It is one of those "been there, done
> that" sort of things. Now someone is going to reply that it is impossible
to
> mandate all referees be players first, but man it helps espicially when
the
> younger referees need all the help that they can get. Plus it doesnt hurt
to
> already be established in our little soccer community rather than to be a
> stranger. It also helps when you first walk on the field as a ref someone
> goes "Isnt he the goalie for the highschool"? or "He plays for Whatever
> Univ."
>
> Just a thought
> YMMY
> -Kevin
> EPA
>
>
> >From: Chad Henson <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Here is a proved idea Re: How do they learn???
> >Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:03:29 -0700
> >
> >For young refs to have confidence, they (we) have to know 3 things:
> >
> >1. That they have the authourity.
> >2. That they will be backed up by other refs and the State Association.
> >3. That others are going thru the same thing and having the guts to do
> >something about it shows character - not weakness.
> >
> >Most know #1, especially after they see someone else deal with the
problem.
> >I think that the assignors tendency to appease the coaches keeps #2 from
> >being a reality.  And the humiliation attached to a confrontation with a
> >coach or calling the referee over and forcing one will, at a younger
level,
> >keep that referee from wanting to deal with it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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