Date:         Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:06:19 -0400
Reply-To:     Discussion of Topics for Soccer Referees <[log in to unmask]>
Sender:       Discussion of Topics for Soccer Referees <[log in to unmask]>
From:         Tom Stagliano <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Hamm Vaulting???
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Mike

You got me for a moment - - (especially if you know Gus...)

Jim Gordon already "HAMMered" me yesterday about my Hamm comments.

I like Mia Hamm.  If you asked me to pick my all time women's team, she
would be on it.  I love to use her as an example to my two boys... watch how
she is aware of the field, how she uses the field, how she goes from
end-to-end....

She is a "marquee" player.  She puts people in the seats (just look at WUSA
attendance in games that Mia is in).  That is what the WUSA is all about....
entertaining people, and eventually making a profit for its investors.   Mia
will assist in doing that.

I guess I just "snapped" the other night while reading some more "goal
scorer hype" on the WUSA web site.

Take the Eric Wynalda analogy....  All those goals for the National team,
but what about the World Cup games?

The statistics are there for Hamm:

Goals in three Women's World Cups (18 games):  6
Goals in two Olympics (10 games): 3
When Michele Akers plays (3 golds: 2 WWC and one Olympic)
When Akers doesn't play: bronze and silver
Hamm played in all five tournaments

In the WUSA  6 goals in 19 games
Hamm scores about one goal per three games in Real competition.
Hamm is not as much a goal scorer as she is a play maker.  (She was a
mid-fielder earlier in her career with the National team).

I guess it is the statement:  "she broke the all-time international scoring
record, for men and women, on May 16, 1999..."    For men or women.   Tell
that one to Maradona and Pele.  It is easy when most of the games you play
are "Internationals", against.....?

Anyway,
Good luck to Gus and Peter
and Best of Luck to Mia... now and next season.

Hey, sometimes I just "rant".......

Thanks for listening.

Peace
        - Stag


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From:         Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Vaulting ahead
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     Oh, Yeah???  And how many goals have they scored?  Tell me, Stag - does
your disdain for "that other white meat" come from a religious conversion to
Judaism, or perhaps Islam?                                          <g>

mdc
(I like hamm with my wusa yeggs)


>>> [log in to unmask] 08/15/01 10:13AM >>>
Two local (Boston area) referees seem to be making some headway in the MLS.

Gus St. Silva will be at Chicago this evening (Fusion @ Fire)
Peter Kokolski will be in Kansas City (Galaxy @ Wizards)
and Peter just did the Crew at the Earthquake this past weekend.

This is Gus's 2nd year as a National.  This is Peter's 4th or 5th.

Why them out of dozens of potential candidates?  <snip>