"Guess Not"? Cheap shot, Stag. You admit you don't
even know them.
Kevin Burke identified Ms. Tubre. I can identify
Ms. Krause as an member of the inaugural Al Kleinaitis
"fast track" group of attendees at USACUP 2001. She
also refereed at the National Championships in Germantown
last July, where I renewed my acquaintence. She is a very
good-looking blond, who is a better ref than her looks!
I saw her referee at both locations.
(And if memory serves me correctly, Michelle was there
as well . . .)
Also in that class was a "classmate" of mine in my
original USSF entry-level class. I did not need to take
it, as I could have "crossed over" from AYSO without
it, but wanted the extra training. There I met
Marty Sinclair. Marty's been hampered by knee injuries,
but is an invitee to National Camp 2004. She has been
working her butt off as well, for several years (including
doing pro games below WUSA.) Last year and this
she's been doing WUSA. Yesterday was her last game of the
season, a 4th at RFK, prior to another knee surgery, which
will sideline her all Fall.
YOU may not know of them; THEY may not have "paid the
dues others have;" but one cannot assert they haven't worked
to get where they are. Of course, I'm giving you the benefit
of the doubt, that this isn't just some chauvanistic post
(comparing Michelle and Sarah in WUSA, to a fellow trying to break
into MLS ranks.)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:19:58 -0400
Reply-To: Tom Stagliano <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: 90 minutes of fame
One would think that it takes hard work and perseverance to finally earn a
D-1 Pro Game as a CR (MLS or WUSA).
One would think that a ref would have to work some (several - many) lower
level games (A-League or W-League) prior to working as a CR in D-1.......
If a referee gets a break and a chance to work WUSA or MLS games in 2003,
one would expect that they would have worked many A-League or W-League games
in previous years (at least 2002) to show "their stuff".
Three names leaped out at me when checking box scores of MLS or WUSA games
I am certain they are all nice people and good referees, but.............
In 2002, Mr. Tobon worked as a CR in a U-19 women's national game and in a
PDSL game, and also received three AR slots (that's it). In 2001, Mr. Tobon
had three CR assignments in the PDSL and four AR assignments in the PDSL and
that's it. However, in 2003, Mr. Tobon worked a MLS game as the CR?????
In 2002 Ms. Kraus worked 2 games as a CR (both WUSA pre-season games).
That's it. Ms. Kraus also had nine AR slots. In 2001 Ms. Kraus worked one
(1) game as a CR (W-League) and nine as an AR. In 2003, Ms. Kraus worked
TWO (2) WUSA games as a CR??? (If Ms. Kraus is so ready to work as a CR
in the WUSA, why wasn't she assigned a whole lot of W-League games in
previous years as a CR????)
In 2002 Ms Tubre worked 2 games as a CR in the PDSL and two as an AR.
That's it. In 2001, Ms Tubre worked No games as a CR and five as an AR in
the PDSL. (Where is the maintenance assessment in a pro game as a CR to
keep the National badge???). However, in 2003, Ms. Tubre worked a WUSA CR
Compare this to Abiodun Okulaja, who worked many A-League and D-3 games in
2001 and 2002 and Finally got 3 assignments as a CR in the MLS in 2003.
I guess some people can just jump to the head of the class or are allowed
their 90 minutes of fame. Guess there were no other nationals available on
Or are these referees located in areas where there are very few pro games,
and only the WUSA or MLS would pay to have them travel? But
still.......... Where is the referee Development????