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Date:   Sun, 27 Jul 2003 12:55:24 -0400
Reply-To:   Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
Sender:   Discussion of Topics for Soccer Referees <[log in to unmask]>
From:   Michael Cotleur <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:   90 minutes of fame
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"Guess Not"? Cheap shot, Stag. You admit you don't

even know them.

Kevin Burke identified Ms. Tubre. I can identify

Ms. Krause as an member of the inaugural Al Kleinaitis

"fast track" group of attendees at USACUP 2001. She

also refereed at the National Championships in Germantown

last July, where I renewed my acquaintence. She is a very

good-looking blond, who is a better ref than her looks!

I saw her referee at both locations.

(And if memory serves me correctly, Michelle was there

as well . . .)

Also in that class was a "classmate" of mine in my

original USSF entry-level class. I did not need to take

it, as I could have "crossed over" from AYSO without

it, but wanted the extra training. There I met

Marty Sinclair. Marty's been hampered by knee injuries,

but is an invitee to National Camp 2004. She has been

working her butt off as well, for several years (including

doing pro games below WUSA.) Last year and this

she's been doing WUSA. Yesterday was her last game of the

season, a 4th at RFK, prior to another knee surgery, which

will sideline her all Fall.

YOU may not know of them; THEY may not have "paid the

dues others have;" but one cannot assert they haven't worked

to get where they are. Of course, I'm giving you the benefit

of the doubt, that this isn't just some chauvanistic post

(comparing Michelle and Sarah in WUSA, to a fellow trying to break

into MLS ranks.)

MC

=========================================== Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 18:19:58 -0400 Reply-To: Tom Stagliano <[log in to unmask]> Subject: 90 minutes of fame

One would think that it takes hard work and perseverance to finally earn a D-1 Pro Game as a CR (MLS or WUSA).

One would think that a ref would have to work some (several - many) lower level games (A-League or W-League) prior to working as a CR in D-1....... If a referee gets a break and a chance to work WUSA or MLS games in 2003, one would expect that they would have worked many A-League or W-League games in previous years (at least 2002) to show "their stuff".

Guess not.

Three names leaped out at me when checking box scores of MLS or WUSA games this year: Hector Tobon Michelle Tubre Sarah Kraus

I am certain they are all nice people and good referees, but.............

In 2002, Mr. Tobon worked as a CR in a U-19 women's national game and in a PDSL game, and also received three AR slots (that's it). In 2001, Mr. Tobon had three CR assignments in the PDSL and four AR assignments in the PDSL and that's it. However, in 2003, Mr. Tobon worked a MLS game as the CR?????

In 2002 Ms. Kraus worked 2 games as a CR (both WUSA pre-season games). That's it. Ms. Kraus also had nine AR slots. In 2001 Ms. Kraus worked one (1) game as a CR (W-League) and nine as an AR. In 2003, Ms. Kraus worked TWO (2) WUSA games as a CR??? (If Ms. Kraus is so ready to work as a CR in the WUSA, why wasn't she assigned a whole lot of W-League games in previous years as a CR????)

In 2002 Ms Tubre worked 2 games as a CR in the PDSL and two as an AR. That's it. In 2001, Ms Tubre worked No games as a CR and five as an AR in the PDSL. (Where is the maintenance assessment in a pro game as a CR to keep the National badge???). However, in 2003, Ms. Tubre worked a WUSA CR slot?????

Compare this to Abiodun Okulaja, who worked many A-League and D-3 games in 2001 and 2002 and Finally got 3 assignments as a CR in the MLS in 2003.

I guess some people can just jump to the head of the class or are allowed their 90 minutes of fame. Guess there were no other nationals available on those days........

Or are these referees located in areas where there are very few pro games, and only the WUSA or MLS would pay to have them travel? But still.......... Where is the referee Development????

Just wondering - Stag


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