Date:         Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:32:27 -0500
Reply-To:     Discussion of Topics for Soccer Referees
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From:         phil rogers <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Offside discussion
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Come on guys - make a distinction between the officials and the BBC reporters who have it WRONG. The jock sniffers  provide empirical evidence that they are no smarter than the washed up players we see and hear on U.S. TV.  

That said I STILL occasionally get to work (Federation play) with guys who assert and enforce a policy that any off-side position is "OFFSIDE" and requires a signal for stoppage of play and IFK to the defense - an appalling policy that I find lazy and which many parents accept as gospel.   


----- Original Message -----
From: Ferenc & Sandy Korompai
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 10:49 AM
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Subject: Fw: Offside discussion

HORRIBILE DICTU!
The birthplace of the Laws is in confusion about something that has been clear in print for over several decades. In the article it says you cannot be offside if...the ball comes off the a defender. WRONG! That provision was dropped from the Laws in 1978, though in typical FIFA style the diagrams were not changed until 1979.
Ferenc
----- Original Message -----  
From: Bill Liedtke<mailto:[log in to unmask]>  
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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Offside discussion


Unfortunate choice of words in example scenario 4.  Although the pictures
clearly show that there is no offside, the text implies that a deflection of
the through pass by a defender might cause an attacker to be put onside by
the opposition.  Words and picture don't match, but the verbage could be
misleading.

Bill Liedtke
OKC OK 07


-----Original Message-----
From: Discussion of Topics for Soccer Referees
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of The Geissmans
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:14 AM
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Subject: Offside discussion


Take this link to a story about a particular non-goal in
the recent Arsenal-Chelsea match

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4544544.stm<http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/4544544.stm>

and follow the Analysis link within it.  At the bottom of
that, there's a further link to some example scenarios.