Contact by the all with an outside agent should always result in two decisions by the referee: ) the ball is immediately out of play, and 2) the restart is a dropped ball.

With, of course, one exception.  Contact with the ball from a penalty kick results in a retake of the PK.

Larry Huey Grapevine, TX

-----Original Message----- From: doug smith <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 4:31 am Subject: Re: DOGSO? - From "Ask a Soccer Referee"

Well, I can tell I expressed myself poorly. I did not mean to imply that an object in a player's hand is an outside agent. was trying to use the example of an outside agent to clarify our thinking which attempt, obviously, was more obscurative than illuminatory). An outside agent is anything that does not belong on the field. Contact by the all with an outside agent should always result in two decisions by the referee: ) the ball is immediately out of play, and 2) the restart is a dropped ball. When a player throws a piece of equipment at the ball, the POE is not an outside gent, but should be treated as if the object is in the player's hand. Since eepers are allowed to play the ball with their hands in their own PA, eliberately handling the ball is not an issue in our scenario. But throwing an object is USB. Unless advantage is invoked (and there is no eason not to wait until the ball is almost out of play to see if it will cross

he goal line between the posts and under the bar, rather than outside/above, efore announcing that decision), the referee should decide that the ball is out f play as soon as contact occurs - in which case (and also in the case where he referee rescinds the advantage decision), the location of the contact etermines the location of the resulting IFK. Because that is the location of the USB. Doug Smith SSF 06 USSF Instructor USSF Assessor x-NISOA NF Oregon > From: [log in to unmask]

Can the shoe be simultaneously an outside agent and an extension of the keeper's hand?

>IFK where the shoe hit the ball (subject to the overriding >conditions of Law - oh, never mind). > >With an outside agent, once the OA hits the ball, the ball is dead, >and the resulting path of the ball does not matter. > >One could argue that, in our scenario (which does not really involve >an OA), if the ball continues across the goal line under the bar and >between the posts, advantage might be applied, and a goal awarded >along the the yellow card for USB. _________________________________________________________________ et thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. ttp://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/