Date:Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:08:50 -0800
Reply-To:Discussion of Topics for Soccer Referees
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From:Patrick Duffy <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:Re: AR Responsibility/Authority
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Just for clarification, there are no "FIFA assessors." FIFA will
appoint "inspectors" for a tournament, but that is only an appointment
for that event and it is not a permanent designation.
Since you mention that this is a high school game, NFHS does not
describe AR mechanics at all, other than for position during the throw
in.
Not all USSF assessors are suppose to listen to the pre-game. "I'll see
the teamwork on the field, or lack thereof." (For high school, of
course, any evaluator procedures, reports, etc. are strictly local
policy.) Generally, it is recommended that the assessor listen in for
lower level referees, who may need help with developing teamwork through
their pre-game.
Yes, I have discussed throw-ins in a pre-game, but mostly on games where
the pre-game may be 30 minutes or so.
Patrick Duffy
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From: Discussion of Topics for Soccer Referees
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lawrence Savell
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:37 PM
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Subject: Re: AR Responsibility/Authority
Thanks for all the comments. The assessor was actually a FIFA assessor
(formally?) and was just making a general comment. Actually, even
thought it was a HS BV tournament championship game, the game wasn't too
physical and went well. I think the teams tend to get tired from their
semi-final games which I think are usually more challenging than the
final. :-)
The assessor did not hear our pre-game. Our crew had already done a
match together and concentrated on crew communications, signaling and
properly handling substitutions. I don't believe I have ever been in a
pre-game where the throw-in has ever been discussed. I think that
everyone typically feels that we know what we are doing and it simply
isn't a big deal. By the way, the assessor did make several positive
comments about holding the off side flag and some positioning
suggestions for the center.
...larry
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From: Discussion of Topics for Soccer Referees
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of doug smith
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:00 PM
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Subject: Re: AR Responsibility/Authority
Lawrence Savell writes:
<< During an assessment the other day, the assessor suggested that as AR
I ought to make sure that the throw-in comes from the right spot on the
touch line. I usually point to the spot where the player should take the
throw-in when a ball is kicked far from touch and the player is bringing
the ball back to play. If the player ignores my direction and takes the
throw-in some 5-10 yards from where I point, should the AR flag this as
a bad throw-in or is it really only the CR's responsibility for calling
the play back?>>
As several other responders have mentioned, this depends on what was
discussed in the pre-game. My take (assuming that the assessor listened
in on the pre-game, which is part of her job) is that the assessor was
probing for exactly what each member of the referee team heard in the
pre-game - presumably, how the referee team performed in this (these?)
situation(s) did not correlate with what the assessor heard prior to the
match.
One of the usual areas for improvement in an assessed match is teamwork
- we tend to learn the higher levels of inter-referee rapport somewhat
later in our careers, just because those levels can't be accessed until
a large majority of the lower level skills (staying with the 2nd-to-last
defender 100% of the time, e.g.) are thoroughly ingrained in one's game,
and there is surplus processing power to apply to those items that are
'frills' in a U-11 match and make or break the team in a tournament
final.
(How's that for a run-on sentence?)
Doug Smith
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