I know your position on matters such as this is usually well thought out and
based on your high level experience. Your answer here, however, leaves me
Let's assume the referee recognizes a player's dive; otherwise, this is all
Isn't it true that in most cases, if not all, a player who dives takes
himself out of the game? And his dive very likely has not impacted the play.
Are you suggesting that in all such cases, the dive should be ignored?
We talk about simulation as cheating and an offense against the true spirit
of the game and sportsmanship. If we ignore an obvious dive, even with no
impact on the game, aren't we ignoring an egregious act?
I can understand ignoring a border line dive where the opponents have
control of the ball (i.e., advantage); but, in the scenario posted by Lee,
diver's team scores subsequent to his dive; aren't we then rewarding the
team after a dive?
I am really not getting this as it is counter to everything I have learned
and been told. What am I missing?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Marco <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Fri, Nov 5, 2010 9:05 pm
> Subject: Re: what would you do
> Yes, at this level play. What does the action really do? It takes an
> ut of the play who maybe could otherwise potentially contribute to play.
> im be selfish and stupid. If, however, the defenders are somehow put off or
> learly taken out of the play then the attempted deception has gone past
> ttempted into deceived. No goal and a caution.
> Ed Marco
> On Nov 5, 2010, at 6:23 PM, lee jordan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > ed
> not sure of your comment here. do it seems that it is possible that it is
> ive but not enough to deceive the defense or really stop the game you can
> he goal stand.
> am I misreading this?
> > Lee, if you decide as the Referee that an attacking player dove just
> > the goal was scored and that dive deceived the defense somehow or you
> > thought it was so bad that you need to stop play and deal with the
> > misconduct, the goal could not be allowed since an infringement occurred
> > the scoring team before the goal.
> lee jordan
> the bastard in black