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Date:   Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:13:55 -0800
Reply-To:   Discussion of Topics for Soccer Referees <[log in to unmask]>
Sender:   Discussion of Topics for Soccer Referees <[log in to unmask]>
From:   tj marlin <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:   Re: Identify the kicker... or... ?
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by this technique you have established a conundrum. you want the pk to be taken. the keeper keeps dancing around.

when you tell the keeper who the kicker is, also tell the keeper "I'm going to walk to the <where ever your preferred spot is >, be ready! this gives the keeper enuf time to prepare himself. when you get to your preferred spot, and all is in order, blow your whistle.

otherwise you let the keeper control the pk. this is not good.

regards

On 1/13/2011 6:25 AM, [log in to unmask] wrote: > What would I do if she said no? Wait a minute, then ask again. I'm not going to give the signal or allow a kicker to surprise the GK. I will wait until she VERBALLY acknowledges that the kick is about to be taken. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: doug smith<[log in to unmask]> > To: SOCREF-L<[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:14 pm > Subject: Re: Identify the kicker... or... ? > > > >> From: [log in to unmask] > I think if you follow proper procedure, you never have to worry about these > hings. And you never have trouble selling your decisions. When you award a PK, > irst point to the spot, then get off the field to the side of the goal. Any > layer who wants to follow you off is guilty of dissent. Deal with it if you > ust. Once everyone is settled and realizes a PK will be taken, get the ball. Go > o the spot, and ask who is taking the kick. DO NOT GIVE UP THE BALL until the > icker is identified; then tell them to wait for the whistle, and show them > here the spot is. Next, deal with the goalkeeper...the correct position for > dministering the kick should be halfway between the spot and the goal line > pposide side from your AR (and in your pre-game, you told her to come to the > ntersection of the PA and goal line, act as a goal judge, and how you wanted > er to deal with GK encroachment....didn't you?). You tell the GK that his feet > ust be on the line, that he can move from post to p! > ost but not out towards the ball, and that YOU WILL NOT LET THE KICKER SURPRISE > IM! Now you ask the GK if he is ready, and you blow the whistle ONLY when you > et a VERBAL confirmation from the GK that he is ready. Now you signal, watch > he kicker's runup and the possible encroachments, and you go with whatever > appens after the kick. If you do it this way, and this way only, you virtually > liminate the possibilities for shenanigans by the kicking team. > > > > > > -----prior posts snipped----- > > recall one of Jim Allen's responses (on askasoccerreferee.com) making one > light modification to this procedure. Once everyone (including you) is in > osition, it is not advised to ask the 'keeper if she is ready - what will you > o if she says no? If the 'keeper is correctly positioned on the goal line > etween the posts, is facing forward, and has her head up, she is ready. A loud > histle is sufficient to wake her from any momentary nap. > > oug Smith > >

-- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ tj marlin Coach, you were expecting to see the end of the game today? - Lin Lipensky


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