I do the same thing and let the rest of the teams know that the ball is not
in play until it is kicked. I've never had a problem.
...larry
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Subject: Re: Identify the kicker... or... ?
I have the kicker place the ball on the mark and tell him - while I stand at
the mark - to wait for the whistle, identification and control achieved.
Ferenc
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From: doug smith<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: Identify the kicker... or... ?
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> I think if you follow proper procedure, you never have to worry about
these things. And you never have trouble selling your decisions. When you
award a PK, first point to the spot, then get off the field to the side of
the goal. Any player who wants to follow you off is guilty of dissent. Deal
with it if you must. Once everyone is settled and realizes a PK will be
taken, get the ball. Go to the spot, and ask who is taking the kick. DO NOT
GIVE UP THE BALL until the kicker is identified; then tell them to wait for
the whistle, and show them where the spot is. Next, deal with the
goalkeeper...the correct position for administering the kick should be
halfway between the spot and the goal line opposide side from your AR (and
in your pre-game, you told her to come to the intersection of the PA and
goal line, act as a goal judge, and how you wanted her to deal with GK
encroachment....didn't you?). You tell the GK that his feet must be on the
line, that he can move from post to p!
ost but not out towards the ball, and that YOU WILL NOT LET THE KICKER
SURPRISE HIM! Now you ask the GK if he is ready, and you blow the whistle
ONLY when you get a VERBAL confirmation from the GK that he is ready. Now
you signal, watch the kicker's runup and the possible encroachments, and you
go with whatever happens after the kick. If you do it this way, and this way
only, you virtually eliminate the possibilities for shenanigans by the
kicking team.
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I recall one of Jim Allen's responses (on askasoccerreferee.com) making
one slight modification to this procedure. Once everyone (including you) is
in position, it is not advised to ask the 'keeper if she is ready - what
will you do if she says no? If the 'keeper is correctly positioned on the
goal line between the posts, is facing forward, and has her head up, she is
ready. A loud whistle is sufficient to wake her from any momentary nap.
Doug Smith
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